BMUG Meeting minutes 10/8/87

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October 1987

BMUG Meeting minutes 10/8/87

Acta document

BMUG Meeting 10/8/87


Sociology Dept.

the meanings of mass culture

Recruit: volunteers to watch a movie Monday night

Gremlins, in Barrows hall

if you haven’t seen it before

see the wanderer near the front

MacServe and OverVUE

anyone have experience with the combination?

problems: printing

OverVUE has a lot of problems printing in strange systems.

Q: What 2 meg memory upgrades for the 512e do people like?

A: LevCo and ___

A: Some people are working on a HyperCard stack to show you how to add memory yourself to Plusses and SE’s.

A: 1 meg SIMMs are $209 from Chip Merchant in San Diego.

Q: Problems with SuitCase?

A: Only with MultiFinder. Perhaps fixed by the time it is released.

Q: Did it trash someone’s DataFrame?

A: Beta testers report no problems.

A: More often it is one of the DA’s.

A: Often Zapping the PRAM will bring back the HD on the Mac II.

Q: What’s the difference between Restart and Shut Down on the special menu?

A: Shut Down gives you time to turn off your hard disk or whatever. On the Mac II, it actually turns it off.

Q: You can run HyperCard in 800K?

A: Yes, but give it 900 if you are printing.

Q: How can you tell if a new LaserWriter Plus has the new ROMs?

A: Look for the orange sticker with “47” or the 3.0 on the startup page.

Q: What Sys/Finder for 512e?

A: Finder 5.3, System 3.2.

A: Suggestion: use the Installer to put it in, rather than just copying the system and finder over.

Q: Has anyone tried running the ImageWriter II on 50 Hz?

A: It works fine with a step-down transformer in Norway. Ground is recommended.

Q: What’s status of new MacRecorder?

A: It is in production/testing. Should be in stores in November.

A: Look for a correction to the BMUG memo by next week.

Q: LaserWriter Plus upgrade includes the new ROMs?

A: Yes. Make sure.

Q: SuperSpool vs. Word 3.01 and ImageWriter II?

A: Try the PCPC spooler and the MaxRam/MaxSpool

Q: How far away can you put a hard drive?

A: SCSI spec says 18 feet. More or less may work.

Q: FullWrite Pro?

A: No. 2 minor bugs. Biweekly letters to all pre-paid customers.

A: We may yet see HabaWord! In a couple of months.

A: MacWrite 4.6 works fine. For free at any dealer, bring in your disk. MacWrite 2.2 is better for large-memory, laser-free configurations. Cursor keys, Mac II, resizable window and horizontal scroll bar supported. Slightly increased margins.

Q: Apple memory prices

A: $250 per SIMM – and dropping.

$209 is best price currently.

Q: Run mac from auto battery?

A: Inverter, such as used in article in Fall 1985 NL.

Q: Printing 1” sheet labels on LaserWriter.

A: Won’t print the bottom row.

A: Yep.

A: Avery Laserprinter labels have just half-labels at top & bottom to allow 10 per page.

A: Bring it to a copy shop and ruin THEIR machine. Single-sheet feed is better, as the paper doesn’t bend.

Q: How about ImageWriter?

A: Bottom-feeding system recommended: it has a “radical bend” in the paper feed path. Labels get stuck.

A: ImageWriter LQ has both feed methods. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

A: Avery 1” tractor-feed labels: just don’t leave ‘em in the IW.

A: Shift to right to back up labels.

A: Whole platen assembly has to be removed. Apple doesn’t even cover it under AppleCare.

A: $45 at ComputerLand of ALbany. $40 at InfoMax of Oakland. $60/hr at CJS bargained down to $25 and done well.

A: You have to take out the gears if you disassemble it by hand.

A: Avery are good quality, but still problematic.

A: Pull back the impression lever on the right side.

A: MacLabeller sells tractor-feed disk labels – IdeaFzorm in Seattle.

Don’t back up!

Use window envelopes or print on the envelope directly!

Q: Canvas?

A: Good! Like SuperPaint but better. More feature-full. Works well with the LaserWriter.

A: There is a patch to fix SuperPaint to work with recent LaserWriter drivers. It still has alignment problems, and won’t work well on the Mac II. It won’t let you rotate text (as text, rather than a bitmap).

A: Canvas has difficulties opening MacDraw PICT files, in version 1.01, but a new one is out. They say it is compatible with the new PICT but not the old.

Q: SuperPaint with MultiFinder problems?

A: Crashes.

A: Silicon Beach Software is working on a new version. They’ve got a good rep.

A: MultiFinder is pre-release.

A: SuperPaint on Mac II: set to 2 grey levels to work.

Q: Personal font

A: handwriting: See article in Fall 1985 BMUG Newsletter.

A: FontoGrapher: for LaserWriter. Laborious.

Q: Medical office practice software?

A: JAM software, from Australia – now in Bay Area. Now in beta test.

A: Omnis 3 vertical applications

Q: Mac time problems?

A: Inaccuracies with old batteries

A: Let it sit overnight.

A: Make sure you’re resetting it right on the new control panel.

A: Don’t grind up your Mac SE or II.

A. Don’t go home if your Mac SE/II burns up (or don’t breathe).

Q: Extended Video RAM for Mac II?

A: M.A.C.

A: Microprocessors unlimited – $5.45 * 8 = $45.

look in the back of last month’s BYTE magazine.

For Sale and To Buy

1 megabyte SIMMs for sale


Toshiba 120 nanosecond surface-mount

Terry, Nuvo Tech. 331-7815


and 800K drive

Nasser 465-9357

Job-listing clipboard available at the front of the room

WP job: Gordon Firestein 524-1484

Database (Omnis 3 &4D) job: Steve Fogel 398-7098


WP job: Brian Goodrich/Pride Institute 957-9333

ComputerWare looking for full-time Pascal programmer.

Special Interest Groups (SIGs)

Label SIG: after the main meeting


Write articles! Now! Deadline: November 1!

Upcoming meetings


Thursday, October 22, 11 AM – 7 PM

Pauley Ballroom, MLK Student Union

7:30 – PSL – Bill Atkinson, author or HyperCard, and (perhaps) Dan Winkler, author of HyperTalk


Door prizes – over $5000 worth.


Volunteers: Call 549-BMUG.

BMUG office could use a 4-drawer filing cabinet. Tax-deductible!!


Discussion & Announcements 6:30 – 7:30




PD disks & NL’s for all.

Tonight’s presentations


ReadySetGo 4.0

Image Studio


Hard Disks

Tape backup


Silver Serverâ„¢

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BMUG Meeting minutes 10/8/87
Kind: Acta document
Size: 1930 bytes, accounts for 2K on disk
Where:BMUG Minutes, internal drive
Created:Thursday, October 8, 1987 at 8:25 PM
Modified:Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 8:26 PM